mainstreamed by the men you your talking about with richard wolffe a few minutes ago, john mccain, mccain, graham, kelly ayotte, replaced lieberman now as the third -- >> what do we compare this to, this secession movement, to anything in american history? other than the civil war? i mean, this is new territory, isn't it? >> yeah, yeah. it's totally new territory. half of me wants to say, let texas go, let texas be a republic of texas and they'll soon find out what's involved. for starters, they'll have to impose an income tax on people. which they don't now. >> yeah. >> and let them pay for their own social security. let them pay for their own medicare. let them see what it's like. fine. >> all right. michael tomasky. great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >> nimy pleasure. >>> tomorrow night on "the ed show," the post office. why is the post office in your town closing? what did they do wrong?